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 The full title of the collection is ''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar over het onderwerp van afscheiding tusschen de Oostelyke en Westelyke Provincie]]'' (I.e. in English: "Duologue between Klaas the Soothsayer and Jan the Doubter on the subject of the separation of the Eastern and Western provinces".)
-This was a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("duologues").  In this case focused on the subject of the impending split of the Cape Province into the Eastern Province and the Western Province, which Meurant published in ''[[The Cradock News]]'' in 1860, under the pseudonym '''[[Klaas Waarzegger]]''' ("Klaas Soothsayer").
+This was a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("duologues").  In this case items focused on the subject of the impending split of the Cape Province into the Eastern Province and the Western Province, which Meurant published in ''[[The Cradock News]]'' in 1860, under the pseudonym '''[[Klaas Waarzegger]]''' ("Klaas Soothsayer").
-According to [[Ludwig Binge]] (1969) Meurant's literary persona, the crusty Calvinist "[[Klaas Waarzegger]]",  also became an influential model for later writers and playwrights such as [[Melt Brink]], [[C.J. Langenhoven]], [[D.C. Postma]]. This work was no doubt informed by the writings of [[Charles Etienne Boniface]] and [[Joseph Suasso de Lima]] who used the [[zamenspraak]] or [[samespraak]] ([[duologue]]) as a literary and journalistic vehicle for argument and satire.
+According to [[Ludwig Binge]] (1969) Meurant's literary persona, the crusty [[Calvinist]] "[[Klaas Waarzegger]]", also became an influential model for later writers and playwrights such as [[Melt Brink]], [[C.J. Langenhoven]], [[D.C. Postma]]. This work was no doubt informed by the writings of [[Charles Etienne Boniface]] and [[Joseph Suasso de Lima]] who used the [[zamenspraak]] or [[samespraak]] ([[duologue]]) as a literary and journalistic vehicle for argument and satire.
 Collected in book form and first published in 1861, the volume was considered to be the first published book in [[Afrikaans]].

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 ''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twijfelaar]]'' is the shorter title of a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("dialogues") in early Afrikaans by [[Klaas Waarzegger]] (''nom de plume'' of ,  [[Louis Henri Meurant]], 1811/182/1813 - 1893)
-Also known as '''''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar]]''''' or by its full title of '''''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar over het onderwerp van afscheiding tusschen de Oostelyke en Westelyke Provincie]]'''''
+<small>Also known as '''''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar]]''''' or by its full title of '''''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar over het onderwerp van afscheiding tusschen de Oostelyke en Westelyke Provincie]]'''''</small>
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 ''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twijfelaar]]'' is the shorter title of a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("dialogues") in early Afrikaans by [[Klaas Waarzegger]] (''nom de plume'' of ,  [[Louis Henri Meurant]], 1811/182/1813 - 1893)
-Also found as '''''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar]]'''''
+Also known as '''''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar]]''''' or by its full title of '''''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar over het onderwerp van afscheiding tusschen de Oostelyke en Westelyke Provincie]]'''''
 ==The collection==

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		+	Also found as '''''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar]]'''''

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 This was a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("duologues").  In this case focused on the subject of the impending split of the Cape Province into the Eastern Province and the Western Province, which Meurant published in ''[[The Cradock News]]'' in 1860, under the pseudonym '''[[Klaas Waarzegger]]''' ("Klaas Soothsayer").
-According to [[Ludwig Binge]] (1969) Meurant's literary persona, the crusty Calvinist "[[Klaas Waarzegger]]",  also became an influential model for later writers and playwrights such as [[Melt Brink]], [[C.J. Langenhoven]], [[D.C. Postma]] in its use of the [[zamenspraak]] or [[samespraak]] ([[duologue]]) as a literary and journalistic vehicle for argument and satire. This work was no doubt informed by the writings of [[Charles Etienne Boniface]] and [[Joseph Suasso de Lima]] who used the [[zamenspraak]] or [[samespraak]] ([[duologue]]) as a literary and journalistic vehicle for argument and satire.
+According to [[Ludwig Binge]] (1969) Meurant's literary persona, the crusty Calvinist "[[Klaas Waarzegger]]",  also became an influential model for later writers and playwrights such as [[Melt Brink]], [[C.J. Langenhoven]], [[D.C. Postma]]. This work was no doubt informed by the writings of [[Charles Etienne Boniface]] and [[Joseph Suasso de Lima]] who used the [[zamenspraak]] or [[samespraak]] ([[duologue]]) as a literary and journalistic vehicle for argument and satire.
 Collected in book form and first published in 1861, the volume was considered to be the first published book in [[Afrikaans]].

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−	~~#REDIRECT~~[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar over het onderwerp van afscheiding tusschen de Oostelyke en Westelyke Provincie]]	+	''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar]]'' is the shorter title of a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("dialogues") in early Afrikaans by [[Klaas Waarzegger]] (''nom de plume'' of , [[Louis Henri Meurant]], 1811/182/1813 - 1893)
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		+	==The collection==
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		+	The full title of the collection is ''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar over het onderwerp van afscheiding tusschen de Oostelyke en Westelyke Provincie]]'' (I.e. in English: "Duologue between Klaas the Soothsayer and Jan the Doubter on the subject of the separation of the Eastern and Western provinces".)
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		+	This was a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("duologues"). In this case focused on the subject of the impending split of the Cape Province into the Eastern Province and the Western Province, which Meurant published in ''[[The Cradock News]]'' in 1860, under the pseudonym '''[[Klaas Waarzegger]]''' ("Klaas Soothsayer").
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		+	According to [[Ludwig Binge]] (1969) his literary persona, the crusty Calvinist "[[Klaas Waarzegger]]", also became an influential model for later writers and playwrights such as [[Melt Brink]], [[C.J. Langenhoven]], [[D.C. Postma]] and the "[[coloured]]" characters used by of later writers. This work was no doubt informed by the writings of [[Charles Etienne Boniface]] and [[Joseph Suasso de Lima]]zamenspraak or samespraak (duologue) as a literary and journalistic vehicle for argument and satire.
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		+	Collected in book form and first published in 1861, the volume was considered to be the first published book in [[Afrikaans]].
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		+	== Sources ==
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		+	Facsimile version of the original publication, Google E-book[https://books.google.co.za/books?id=_QriAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Zamenspraak+tusschen+Klaas+Waarzegger+en+Jan+Twijfelaar&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjN9uzazsjRAhUBLMAKHeq5BHkQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q&f=false]
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		+	[[Ludwig Wilhelm Berthold Binge]]. 1969. ''Ontwikkeling van die Afrikaanse toneel (1832-1950)''. Pretoria: J.L. van Schaik: pp.
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		+	[[F.C.L. Bosman]]. 1980. ''Drama en Toneel in Suid-Afrika, Deel II, 1856-1916''. Pretoria: [[J.L. van Schaik]]
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		+	[[Elizabeth Conradie\|Conradie, Elizabeth]], 1949. ''Hollandse skrywers uit Suid-Afrika. Deel 2 (1875-1905) 'n Kultuur-historische studie''. Pretoria, [[J.H. de Bussy]] and Cape Town [[H.A.U.M.]].[http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/conr002holl02_01/index.php]
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		+	[[J.C. Kannemeyer]]. 1984. ‘’Geskiedenis van die Afrikaanse Literatuur’’1. Tafelberg Uitgewers[http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/kann003gesk01_01/kann003gesk01_01_0024.php]
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		+	Go to [[ESAT Bibliography]]
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−	This was a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("dialogues") which Meurant published in ''[[The Cradock News]]'' in 1860, under the pseudonym '''[[Klaas Waarzegger]]''' ("Klaas Soothsayer"). Focussed on the split between the Eastern and Western provinces, they were entitled .
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−	According to [[Ludwig Binge]] (1969) his literary persona, the crusty Calvinist "[[Klaas Waarzegger]]", also became an influential model for later writers and playwrights such as [[Melt Brink]], [[C.J. Langenhoven]], [[D.C. Postma]] and the "coloured" characters used by of later writers. This work was no doubt informed by the writings of [[Charles Etienne Boniface]] and [[Joseph Suasso de Lima]]zamanspraak or samespraak (duologue) as a literary and journalistic vehicle for argument and satire.
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-''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar over het onderwerp van afscheiding tusschen de Oostelyke en Westelyjke Provincie]]'' (approximately "between Klaas the Soothsayer and Jan the Doubter") by [[Klaas Waarzegger]] (''nom de plume'' of ,  [[Louis Henri Meurant]], 1811/182/1813 - 1893)
+''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar over het onderwerp van afscheiding tusschen de Oostelyke en Westelyjke Provincie]]'' (approximately "between Klaas the Soothsayer and Jan the Doubter") is a book of  dialogues by [[Klaas Waarzegger]] (''nom de plume'' of ,  [[Louis Henri Meurant]], 1811/182/1813 - 1893)
 This was a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("dialogues") which Meurant published in  ''[[The Cradock News]]'' in 1860, under the pseudonym '''[[Klaas Waarzegger]]''' ("Klaas Soothsayer"). Focussed on  the split between the Eastern and Western provinces, they were entitled .
-According to [[Ludwig Binge]] (1969) his literary persona, the crusty Calvinist "[[Klaas Waarzegger]]",  also became an influential model for later writers and playwrights such as [[Melt Brink]], [[C.J. Langenhoven]], [[D.C. Postma]] and the "coloured" characters used by of later writers. This work was no doubt informed by the writings of [[Charles Etienne Boniface]] and [[Joseph Suasso de Lima]], he in turn influenced many, including [[C.J. Langenhoven]] in the use of the starical dualogue as a cutlrual and polirtical weapon. Published in (1860/1?*)
+According to [[Ludwig Binge]] (1969) his literary persona, the crusty Calvinist "[[Klaas Waarzegger]]",  also became an influential model for later writers and playwrights such as [[Melt Brink]], [[C.J. Langenhoven]], [[D.C. Postma]] and the "coloured" characters used by of later writers. This work was no doubt informed by the writings of [[Charles Etienne Boniface]] and [[Joseph Suasso de Lima]]zamanspraak or samespraak (duologue) as a literary and journalistic vehicle for argument and satire.
 Collected in book form and first published in 1861, they were considered to be the first published book in [[Afrikaans]].
-As part of his journalistic and political activities, Meurant also wrote and published some well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" (dialogues) in  ''[[The Cradock News]]'' in 1860, under the pseudonym '''[[Klaas Waarzegger]]''' ("Klaas Soothsayer"). ''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twijfelaar]]''

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−	''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan ~~Twijfelaar~~]]'' (approximately "~~Dialogue~~ between Klaas the Soothsayer and ~~John~~ the Doubter") by [[Klaas Waarzegger]] (''nom de plume'' of , [[Louis Henri Meurant]], 1811/182/1813 - 1893)	+	''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twyfelaar over het onderwerp van afscheiding tusschen de Oostelyke en Westelyjke Provincie]]'' (approximately "between Klaas the Soothsayer and Jan the Doubter") by [[Klaas Waarzegger]] (''nom de plume'' of , [[Louis Henri Meurant]], 1811/182/1813 - 1893)
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		+	This was a collection of well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" ("dialogues") which Meurant published in ''[[The Cradock News]]'' in 1860, under the pseudonym '''[[Klaas Waarzegger]]''' ("Klaas Soothsayer"). Focussed on the split between the Eastern and Western provinces, they were entitled .
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		+	According to [[Ludwig Binge]] (1969) his literary persona, the crusty Calvinist "[[Klaas Waarzegger]]", also became an influential model for later writers and playwrights such as [[Melt Brink]], [[C.J. Langenhoven]], [[D.C. Postma]] and the "coloured" characters used by of later writers. This work was no doubt informed by the writings of [[Charles Etienne Boniface]] and [[Joseph Suasso de Lima]], he in turn influenced many, including [[C.J. Langenhoven]] in the use of the starical dualogue as a cutlrual and polirtical weapon. Published in (1860/1?*)
		+	Collected in book form and first published in 1861, they were considered to be the first published book in [[Afrikaans]].
		+	As part of his journalistic and political activities, Meurant also wrote and published some well-known and influential "[[Zamenspraake]]" (dialogues) in ''[[The Cradock News]]'' in 1860, under the pseudonym '''[[Klaas Waarzegger]]''' ("Klaas Soothsayer"). ''[[Zamenspraak tusschen Klaas Waarzegger en Jan Twijfelaar]]''

−	An influential piece on ***. No doubt informed by the writings of Boniface and De Lima, he in turn influenced many, including [[C.J. Langenhoven]] in the use of the starical dualogue as a cutlrual and polirtical weapon. Published in (1860/1?)